january 28th. coming up on "early today" the exchanges were hot and heavy on the factor. but do iowa voters care if trump ditches tonight's debit. a new details on the shooting and a message of the hold outs. go home. walmart devastating some commute. and long lines for gas. and rachel maddow gets to the heart of the water crisis in flint, michigan. >> i'm erika hill, just four days in the iowa caucuses and drurp is standing his ground

this morning. not participating in the fox news debate tonight. he appeared last night where host bill o'reilly pleaded with him to reconsider. >> mr. ywill you consider. think about it. well look. >> even though you and i had an agreement that you hadn't ask me that, which we did. i will therefore forget that you asked me that. >> o'reilly also tried to play the religion card. trump wasn't having it. >> in your christian faith there is a very significant tenant and that is tenet of forgiveness. don't you think that is the right thing to do. >> it probably is. but, you know, it is called an eye for an eye also. you can look at it that way. >> no no no. >> bill you are taking it. >> the christian, the eye for the eye rule goes out. >> bill, you are taking this

much more seriously than i am. i'm not taking it seriously. i'm going to have a wonderful time tomorrow night at 9:00 at drake university. >> so that event will benefit veterans. trump is holding ate the at the same time saz the gop debate a short distance away. ted cruz is doubling down on his challenge of a man-to-man debate with trump asking his twitter followers to help him out. tell him to accept he writes. #ducking donald. and along with a possession from the cruz campaign web page. donald trump's head superimposed on the disney character skrooj mcduck. super pacs also want to make the debate happen offering a donation of 1.5 million dollars to charities helping veterans. and trump's response? ted cruz wants to debate me again.

can we do it in canada. >> reporter: trump possibly betting the risk of a no-show is better than the risk of a poor performance. in response, trump's opponents are piling on. ted cruz not so ittally tweeting that trump is a coward. the drama making national head lines but not here in iowa, where locals want to get it over with. >> i don't think he's credible candidate. i wouldn't vote for him if he was the only one running. >> more drama. more petulate behavior. >> he's heard enough. >> wouldn't you want to see another debate to really be able to -- >> i don't need it. >> it's that some voters in iowa may say this is immature. but i think that risk is relatively small.

>> though polling suggests the bigger the turnout, the better trump will do caucus night there is still little sign the campaign has followed through on its get out to vote effort. >> a new maris poll says donald trump garnering the support of 32% of likely iowa caucus goers. marco rubio is solidly in third. over on the democratic side, hillary clinton and brernds neck and neck within the margin of error. yesterday the vermont senator took time off the campaign trail for a meeting with president obama. >> it was a private conversation. so i'm not going to get into it. but i think if there is anybody in the world who understands whether campaigning in iowa, in new hampshire is about and putting together just an extraordinary gras roots movement that took him to victory, that is barack obama.

moment the new hampshire leader is hosting a debate next week. bernie sanders tells nbc he isn't ready to commit to that debate yet. hillary clinton says she's in. >> i'm ready for the debate and i hope senator sanders will change his mind and join us. and i think the dnc and the campaign should be able to work this it. i've said for, you know, for a long time that i'd be happy to have more debates. and i hope we can get this done. >> to the latest in the occupations at the oregon wiefld refuge. >> the groups leader who was arrested on tuesday sent this message to his attorney. >> to those remaining at the

refuge. i love you. let us take this fight from here. please stand down. >> nbc's joe friar has more. >> authorities are tightening their grip around the refuge. blocking roads and setti intingk points. inside some of the militants remain. >> peaceful resolution is what you keep hearing and pieceful resolution is what we expect. >> many of the leaders are now occupying a jail cell. driving along the highway some for stopped by the fbi and state police. one vehicle drove up and hit a snow bank. then lavoy finicum emerged brandishing a firearm. another milton, ryan bundidy yw shot in the arm. another occupier jon ritzheimer

was in arizona after returning home to see his family. now the fbi says those remaining need to pack up and go and won't be arrested. >> if people on the refuge want to leave they are free to do so. >> that was nbc's joe friar reporting. >> in florida, indicted by a grand jury on excessive force charges. the incident caught on video in 2014. he was arrested on a drug warrant in marion county. in the footage he appears to surrender. at no point resisting arrest. however five deputies are seen repeatedly kicking and punching him. following the incident jurrell was fired. he faces civil rights violations, up to ten years in prison and a fine of up to $250 thousand if convicted. the other four deputies resigned. >> by the end of the day walmart will have shut down almost all of the 150 stores he targeted for closure around the nation. nbc's gabe gutierrez takes us to

one of the many communities that will now struggle to find fresh food after walmart leaves. >> in tiny oriental north carolina, population 900. everything changed when the giant came to down. >> it was bad. i mean immediately it effected us. >> it kills me. >> right for 44 years renee ireland smith's family ran a grocery store here. and then a walmart game along. and seven short months later they close their doors. now walmart is closing 150 stores in the u.s., turning oriental into a food desert without a single grocery store. >> anybody here that wants to buy an onion now has to drive about a 40 mile round trip. >> walmart's ceo points out the company plans to open 300 new locations around the world. closing stores is never an easy decision he says but it is necessary to keep the company

strong and positioned for the future. >> they weren't really in the right location. and the product mix just wasn't right. >> rebecca anderson was laid off when walmart opened near the mom and pop store where he worked. >> just all about the people. and they were all about us. and when walmart game, it was no more. >> she and so many others are wondering what will fill the void now that the giant is leaving down. >> let's get a check now of your thursday forecast from nbc meteorologist bill karins. good morning. >> we're soggy in the northwest and in florida. how about this yesterday in south florida. think didn't have a lot of severe weather but a couple of small tornados enough to pick up and flip a couple of vehicles in broward company. one injury reported. in the northwest wore getting drenched from the olympics to the cascades. especially in washington state

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>> how about paying 39 cents a gallon for gas? last time prices were that low? 1969. as congress prepares to hold hearings on the water crisis in flint, governor snyder said replacing the city's pipes is not on his short-term agenda. however residents are desperate for help to fix the corroded toxic system. last night msnbc's rachel maddow held a town hall, talking to local leaders about the impact. first she spoke with a master plumber about the economic impact. >> part of mixing this problem in flint is replacing that service line. how big a job is that? >> for something like this, probably 3 to 5 grand just to get the new line in there. without an upstairs roughly $4 thousand just for inside the

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